What just happened that there's half a dozen shrimp boats?

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What just happened that there's half a dozen shrimp boats?

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I just got back from my morning jaunt to the Sea Isle (Galveston west end) beach and was surprised to see half a dozen shrimp boats, with 3 of them being almost within casting distance from the beach... Normally, if we see boats at all, they're miles and miles offshore. I don't know what it means, I just report what I saw and maybe someone else knows.

Sadly, the water was still quite brown, with no green water interface within sight.

But maybe someone can make some sense of all the shrimp boats so close in, and parlay it into catching some fish off the beach. I'll be going back in awhile and if they're still there, maybe kayak around them.
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That's usually the time to get out your castnet and catch some shrimp. It's not unusual for the white shrimp to move in right next to the beach during the summer. The shrimpers will follow them as close as they can get.
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I've seen this a lot in Matagorda in the summer. After shrimpers hitting the beach for a few days it will take the water a while to clear up.
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I wasn't sure if some season didn't open up, but apparently it's just that the shrimp move closer to the beach and the boats follow them?

I wonder how much trouble I'd get into if I dragged a 2' diameter net behind my kayak for a mile or 2. Just to get some bait and a shrimp cocktail...

I recall using seine and cast nets to catch bait, with no special requirements. But I'm not sure about dragging a small net behind a manual powered kayak.

Anyone know the exact laws? Perhaps by sad experience or maybe watching too much Lone Star Law?
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impulse wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:25 pm I wasn't sure if some season didn't open up, but apparently it's just that the shrimp move closer to the beach and the boats follow them?

I wonder how much trouble I'd get into if I dragged a 2' diameter net behind my kayak for a mile or 2. Just to get some bait and a shrimp cocktail...

I recall using seine and cast nets to catch bait, with no special requirements. But I'm not sure about dragging a small net behind a manual powered kayak.

Anyone know the exact laws? Perhaps by sad experience or maybe watching too much Lone Star Law?
The way I understand the netting rules that could be considered illegal means and methods but since there is no definitive written language regarding dragging a net by a manual powered kayak (not for retail or resale purposes) to me it would be up to the discretion of each game warden. I'd bet you ask 3 different wardens and you'd get at least 2 different answers :lol:

That said not sure how effective that concept would be. I would be interested to learn though :)
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SWFinatic wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:40 pm
That said not sure how effective that concept would be. I would be interested to learn though :)
I'd be interested, too. But not enough to pay $500 for a shrimp cocktail...

Too many times, the GW's on Lone Star Law point out that "it was just a minor infraction and the guy meant well", and they "only" get fined $500.
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Cast Net, Seine or individual bait shrimp trawl: Click

This guy has got it figured out:
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Neumie wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:33 pm Cast Net, Seine or individual bait shrimp trawl: Click

This guy has got it figured out:
This is the requirement that has me bamboozled...

Mesh size must not be smaller than 8-3/4 inches over a consecutive series of five stretched meshes.
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I think that means when you stretch the mesh the measurement from the nodes of 5 holes (6 nodes) must be longer than 8.75".
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Neumie wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:07 pm I think that means when you stretch the mesh the measurement from the nodes of 5 holes (6 nodes) must be longer than 8.75".
Okay, makes sense... The first net I got in is too small at 7" for 5 links (advertised 20mm mesh). I ordered a 2nd one that advertises 1" mesh. It arrives next week, and I'll see if I can stretch it to 8.75" for 5 links. If not, they sell 1-1/4" mesh. Next step it to make a ring out of 3/8" steel rebar and drag it around West Bay. Technically, the season for eating shrimp is closed so I'll be trolling for bait until it opens again. Seems like the difference is 2 quarts per day with no closed season in the bay for bait vs 15 pounds of eating shrimp a day during the season. That's with a $37 shrimp license, and all for personal consumption...

But I'm still perusing the rules. Don't want to get fined even if it's the cutie that patrols Galveston on Lone Star Law.

On a fishing related note, if you're not here in Galveston this week, you're not missing anything off the beach. Brown water and rough as far as the eye can see. We can't seem to catch a break this year on the wind. Had maybe 10 decent days and 3 real good ones all year. Guide buddies are having a blast putting their clients on lots of sharks at the SLP.
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Quick update on my little shrimp project... I got the 1" mesh net and it is over 8.75" in 5 loops so I threaded it on a bent piece of 3/8" rebar and it ended up 25" in diameter. Now all I need is a $37 bait shrimp license and I can keep up to 2 quarts of bay bait shrimp a day until the season kicks in on August 15 and the limit goes up to 15 pounds of eating shrimp a day.

While I was putzing around making the net, my new neighbor motored by on the canal and told me he has a maximum legal size sport shrimp net he bought years ago and never used. He's gonna bring it down next time he goes to his Houston house and I'll see how it's really supposed to be done.

It'll be fun in any case, dragging my tiny net in West Bay behind my motorized canoe. If it looks promising, I'll fire up my brother's 24' BlueWave bay boat which uses about 20x the gas per hour that my little 7.5HP putt-putt uses. Maybe we can beat the high cost of bait and seafood for awhile.

Photos to follow if they're not too embarrassing... And I don't end up afoul of some technicality and get dinged by TPWD. It'd just be dumb to post photos of criminal activity online.
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impulse wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:16 pm Quick update on my little shrimp project... I got the 1" mesh net and it is over 8.75" in 5 loops so I threaded it on a bent piece of 3/8" rebar and it ended up 25" in diameter. Now all I need is a $37 bait shrimp license and I can keep up to 2 quarts of bay bait shrimp a day until the season kicks in on August 15 and the limit goes up to 15 pounds of eating shrimp a day.

While I was putzing around making the net, my new neighbor motored by on the canal and told me he has a maximum legal size sport shrimp net he bought years ago and never used. He's gonna bring it down next time he goes to his Houston house and I'll see how it's really supposed to be done.

It'll be fun in any case, dragging my tiny net in West Bay behind my motorized canoe. If it looks promising, I'll fire up my brother's 24' BlueWave bay boat which uses about 20x the gas per hour that my little 7.5HP putt-putt uses. Maybe we can beat the high cost of bait and seafood for awhile.

Photos to follow if they're not too embarrassing... And I don't end up afoul of some technicality and get dinged by TPWD. It'd just be dumb to post photos of criminal activity online.
Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. You might just start a new fad.
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