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secrets

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:00 pm
by FLYYAK
AHA! Now the secrets shall be revealed 8) :D :D :D Went to Walmart pcked up a thread rack,very helpful tip Letsgo thanks.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:17 pm
by M-D
Bob,

Secrets are always revealable -- for a price. :wink:

Got my thread-holder quite a while back at Hobby Lobby. Seems one isn't enough, though. I have too many different colours of thread left over from before I started using mono all the time.

Missed seeing you in AP this past weekend.

M-D

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:18 pm
by fishin'
I did too on Friday. LOL Thanks Scott.

Got my new TFO 9wt in today. Man am I stoked!! Almost ready to go attack the bows on the Guad with it. I need a saltwater fix soon! :lol: I just couldn't pass the rod up for the price I paid with the alum rod tube and free shipping. :roll:
Still think the Gatti that Barry is going to build for me will be my go to rod. Is it almost Spring yet?

M-D, do you use mono for all of your tying? If so, why the switch from thread?.....as long as we are revealing secrets. :shock:

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:56 pm
by M-D
Fred,

I switched to mono for saltwater flies because it is tougher, is always clear, and I just like using it. If I need a standard colour, like black, red, green, or blue, a Sharpies does the trick. Lok-Tite makes a little stand-alone bottle of CA adhesive which I use as a head-cement/locker. I still use thread if a certain colour is needed. There are times, though, when I'll tie with mono, and use floss on the head to give me the colour, which is then either head-cemented with conventional head-cement, or epoxied. Lime green or florescent orange would be an example.

I just mic'ed the mono. Fine is .005 and Ultra Fine is .003

M-D

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:06 pm
by fishin'
Thanks for the info M-D. It's those tips that really speed the learning curve. :P

fishin'

thread

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:11 pm
by FLYYAK
MD I use some mono.I found some invisible thread at wallyworld and it works too, so far that is.I haven't used it much so results are still out. I wish I could have made it last weekend I always learn something at those.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:56 pm
by Barry
M-D wrote:Fred,

I switched to mono for saltwater flies because it is tougher, is always clear, and I just like using it. If I need a standard colour, like black, red, green, or blue, a Sharpies does the trick. Lok-Tite makes a little stand-alone bottle of CA adhesive which I use as a head-cement/locker. I still use thread if a certain colour is needed. There are times, though, when I'll tie with mono, and use floss on the head to give me the colour, which is then either head-cemented with conventional head-cement, or epoxied. Lime green or florescent orange would be an example.

I just mic'ed the mono. Fine is .005 and Ultra Fine is .003

M-D

I agree with MD about the Mono thread. When the head cement hits it, the color of the material underneath it shows through.
Being the cheap *&^%* I am, I buy/use the same nylon quilters thread that we build the furled leaders out of. You can get it in two sizes (.004 & .005) and two colors (clear and smoke) at Wal-Mart in the sewing dept. I think it's about $1.59 a 300 yard spool. Quite a bit cheaper than the mono fly tying thread.

Re: secrets

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:36 am
by johnboy
The nylon is getting very very hard to find now Barry. I hit 3 walmarts and hobby lobby and nota. jb

Re: secrets

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:17 am
by Barry
JB
I agree that it's becoming harder to find at Wally World. Although, the one here in Granbury has started to carry it again. If you get in a bind, one can most always find it in the stores that sell sewing materials.
Let me know if you want me to pick some up for you. Just tell me what size and shade you want.

Re: secrets

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:35 am
by johnboy
Will Do. I did have to on line order some greenish boa yarn. I guess last weekend kicked off my interest in this again and need to practice before I forget!

Re: secrets

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:52 am
by Walker
Great to see a post or two by Barry again. Been a long time.

Re: secrets

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:50 am
by Barry
Walker
Thanks, it's good to be posting again.

JB
Just let me know if you want some of the nylon quilter's thread, and I'll get it to you.

Re: secrets

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:48 pm
by Kayak Kid
Barry,
How you doing old man? Haven't heard from you lately.

Re: secrets

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:07 pm
by Barry
KK
Doing OK. I hit a few rough spots, but everything seems to be going along fine now.

Re: secrets

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:07 pm
by Roofish
Mono thread? Didn't know there was such a thing :)

Re: secrets

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:05 pm
by Barry
Roo
Yep, there is. The thread that I use is called nylon quilters thread. It comes in two diameters (.004 & .005) and two shades (clear & smoke).

Re: secrets

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:28 pm
by Roofish
I'm going to have to get some. I imagine it works well when tightening down on deerhair, as I always break thread & that is frustrating.
So I for 1 really appreciate the tip, just hope I can find some :)

Re: secrets

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:25 pm
by Woody Creek
Roo
That maybe too fine for spinning deer hair, try something heaver like UTC 140 denier thread.
One thing I’ve found clear mono thread good for is holding down tape on eyes like Witch Craft makes so they won’t pop up then coat with epoxy.

Woody

Re: secrets

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:30 pm
by Do It
Roofish wrote:I'm going to have to get some. I imagine it works well when tightening down on deerhair, as I always break thread & that is frustrating.
So I for 1 really appreciate the tip, just hope I can find some :)
Roo if your stacking deer hair like the frogs you've been tying UTC 210 or equivalent should be fine. If your spinning and really putting some pressure allot of tyers will use GSP ( gel spun) it's tough as nails, I think they have it at sportsmans finest and cabelas.
D.

Re: secrets

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:34 pm
by Barry
Roo
If you're going to use this thread for tough tying jobs (stacking deer hair, etc., don't use the .004 thread. It won't take a lot of pressure before it'll pop on you.

Re: secrets

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:03 pm
by Walker
Roofish wrote:Mono thread? Didn't know there was such a thing :)
IMHO, calling it thread is inaccurate. I think of thread as something that has fine strands. Mono thread is just tiny monofilament - a single strand.

And - as Barry said - it is not forgiving to over-pressure when tying. Worse - unlike thread, when it snaps, you are pretty much back to ground zero - or to your last knot. When thread snaps, you can usually recover easily. Not so with mono.